This is a very unique data set, because it includes a wide sample size (170+ shooters) who also happen to be the leading experts in the field. Three attackers killed a total of 17 in four shooting attacks, and police then killed the three assailants. The vests we all used to train with are filled with bags of iron filings in pouches. and then ruck it for several miles over the course of a match. Check our Rapid Reference Chart to see how much weight you can add to your sandbag by switching to heavy sand. Large quantities of Zircon and Chromite are available from IFS Industries, and other industrial suppliers. Match coordinators like to get creative with their stage designs, and incorporating challenging and difficult positions is how they separate the good from the great. Chromite is heavy sand. The weight of the fill that is used varies wildly. If you buy a product from us and decide to return it, well take it back at any time with very few exceptions. If a pack for a rest cant cut it then somethings wrong. Disclaimer: Content on this site is for reference purposes and is not a substitute for advice from a licensed health-care professional. The camo is off colored camo, the filling is bean bag beads that do not remain stiff enough for precise shooting a concealed pistol much less anything else. You can buy the bags on eBay for short, short $$. Enhancements you chose aren't available for this seller. For more info, check out. Bison Tactical was the next most popular brand of shooting bag, with 15% of the top shooters saying it was their favorite. Heavy Sand Weighing the Benefits Please search by another zipcode to find the nearest dealer. Zircon Heavy-Weight Champion Then he calculated how much each type of sand would weigh in various sizes of rear sandbags: standard, large, and ultra-large (Bigfoot). The TAB Gear North Texas Rifle Precision (NTRP) bag is another rectangular offering with a hook and loop fastener top and a rubber-panel bottom. Well built and a handy, lightweight shooting rest. Its ruggedly built, and the new Tack Driver bags are much more affordably priced compared to many of the other options in this list. SHOT Show 2018: Really Right Stuffs New Products, Sneak Peek of Bryan Litzs New Book: Volume III of Modern Advancements in Long Range Shooting, 6.5 Creedmoor Ammo Test Part 1: Intro & Reader Poll, Extreme Long Range Tips 2: Spotting Shots & Ranging, Wyoming ELR Scopes & Mounts What The Pros Use, Extreme Long Range Tips 1: Optics & Mounts, How To Measure The Distance To The Lands On Your Rifle Barrel, NF ELR Calibers & Cartridges What The Pros Use, watch this instruction video from veteran Jim See on Free Recoil, 647 and 6.547 Lapua Load Data What The Pros Use, https://precisionrifleblog.com/2019/01/28/best-gunsmith/#comment-67977, Precision Rifle Podcasts 4 Podcasts Hosted by Top 10 Shooters, Finally!!! I conducted two surveys, one of the top shooters in the NRL and one of the top shooters in the PRS a couple of weeks later. You can buy iron filings pretty cheap. Or order 'Bags' for weight vests. Best Sellers in Sandbags #1 ABCCANOPY Sandbag Photography Weight Bags for Video Stand,4 Packs (Black) 4.6 out of 5 stars 6,059 4 offers from $21.07 #2 Emart Heavy Duty Sandbag Photo Studio Weight Bag Saddlebag Design for Photography Stand Light Stand Tripod, Outdoor Patio, Sports, Photo Sets, Film Sets, Live Productions -4 Packs Set If youre just going to be prone, Id probably suggest the SAP Run N Gun bag or the TAB Gear Straight Laced Bag. Check the chart below and youll see that Zircon sand weighs essentially TWICE as much as ordinary play sand. You can return the item for any reason in new and unused condition: no shipping charges. But for those who demand the maximum weight in their sandbag (without consideration of cost), Zircon is the top choice because it is sold at a finer grade (higher density) than Chromite. When it comes to the highest levels of competition, there will always be specialty equipment that may not make sense in real-world applications. Cant wait for the next article. Zircon -- Heavy-Weight Champion Dont forget, whatever you decide on, youll have to carry it in a match. Eligible for Return, Refund or Replacement within 30 days of receipt. . Reviewed in the United States on June 21, 2022. When you shoot a hard-recoiling gun, the difference between a bag filled with play sand vs. Zircon is very noticeable. They also offer several different dedicated rear bag options. Manufacturer warranty for 12 Months from the date of purchase. Yeah, man. It also analyzed reviews to verify trustworthiness. If someone scoffs at a pound, Id suggest they consider losing a pound off their mid-section and then they could add this to their pack! Cal Zant is the shooter/author behind PrecisionRifleBlog.com. Your question might be answered by sellers, manufacturers, or customers who bought this product. $17.80. Prince Minerals Chrome CAST 7850 (Chromite) (black): 172 lb/cu.ft; avg. Ive personally bought a big bag of Micro Bead Filler off Amazon, which is SUPER-lightweight. I'm laughing at all you guys saying the beach.do you realize what heavy sand is, or are you just being smart asses. Thing is so tiny it fits in the front most pocket of a small book bag. It has carrying straps for hauling the bag between stages, and its fill can be customized to shooter preference. Gone are the days of the sand sock! Riverbed Sand: 7.9 lbs. Here is an estimate of how much each sand would weigh in various sizes of rear bag: Zircon: 10.1 lbs. They were primarily featherlight fill, but the Game Changer, Rifles Only bags, and a few others come with a heavier fill (maybe more appropriate to call a mid-weight fill, because its not like lead shot or anything). Heavy Sand helps your sandbag resist the tendency to shift or change alignment (relative to the stock) during recoil. Find this helpful? Many shooting bags can be filled with different materials, providing different advantages based on primary use. 3 years ago when I wrote about the bags the pros were using almost all of them were box-shaped (see that post). They also have an upgraded version called the Sticky Game Changer OG. The Forster Kwik-Fill Sandbag Filler Funnel features a simple, durable, compact plastic funnel body with a special, long drop tube. OneTigris is a team of young hears and lovers of life. But I dont hunt out of a blind typically, and dont carry a heavy bag with me on a spot-and-stalk hunt. Try Russ Haydon Shooting Supply for heavy sand. Crazy to see how much bags have evolved over the past couple years! Their Game Changer OG is uniquely shaped to fit around many different obstacles. Our extra heavy bag sand is sold in 15 pound boxes which is enough to fill a larger rear bag with a little left over. F5F3B5D9-B6B2-4F24-9E76-E0B272F19936.jpeg. Located in Galeton, Pennsylvania, we are proud to be Made in the U.S.A.! This flap will have white stiches running along both sides. I typically dont do that either. The Lead Sled has been around for years, and their new Precision Turret Shooting Rest is an excellent option for sighting in precision AR-15s. Of course there are some shooting situations where you don't need (or don't want) maximum sandbag weight. The plastic handle help you carry. (Note: Some shooters run longer, heavy barrels so the balance point of the rifle is just forward of the magazine.). It feels like I have less squeeze adjustability and conformity. Both options are available in several different colors and patterns, and theyre well-suited for full support of a rifle on practically any barricade. He said AG is responsible for the distribution and service of the current bag, as well as any legacy bags originally purchased from Reasor, so he wanted to ensure AG got credit for all their hard work. In this article we tested three types: Zircon, Chromite, and commercial Riverbed sand (Exo-Terra brand Reptile Sand). Chromite: 9.9 lbs. Chromite -- Almost as Heavy as Zircon, and 30% Cheaper Best for the Money: Edgewood Shooting Bags - Edgewood Grab Handle Bags CHECK LATEST PRICE Pros Ships with a large handle for effective transportation and positioning. We have their necessary FFL information on file and your FFL order will ship directly to them once processed. by Jason Baney. Note that the flap is actually two pieces of nylon/cordura which are sewn together. Joined May 27, 2007 Messages 150. Today we have the luxury to pick from a ton of feature-packed bags, that can help you get steady from just about any awkward barricade or position match directors can dream up. Heavy Sand helps your sandbag resist the tendency to shift or change alignment (relative to the stock) during recoil. Riverbed sand is a conglomerate of several different sizes and colors and appears red and black. Im sure there are other big bags with zippers, so you might look around. Suggestion Amazon has encountered an error. Delivery date may change with additions to cart. Our payment security system encrypts your information during transmission. Please try again. It measures 7 inches long by 4.5 inches wide and 5 inches tall, and it weighs in at 5 pounds. Please search by another zipcode to find the nearest dealer. Trijicon Ventus: Measuring Range AND WIND! I get that competitors can go overboard with huge bags. I've measured 5 kg (11 lbs) of Zircon sand via dosimeter in radioactive monitoring center, and this gives me about 0,06 mRem/h , but natural background radiation level is 0,012-0,02 mRem/h at my location, so Zircon sand emit about 3-4 times more than background. The new Sako Finnlight II sports an innovative stock and Cerakote metal paired with the terrific 85 action. All Rights Reserved. Heavy Sand, Lead Shot, and Competition Rules I appreciate you taking the time to give me the feedback and let me know it hit the spot! On an off subject Ive noticed noticed you have recently changed to Protected Content web pages. Those combine to represent 84% of these top marksmen. I asked the top shooters in the PRS that, and here is what they said: Most shooters carry either 2 or 3 bags. Bottom Line: When it comes time to fill your new rear bag, you may want to save a few dollars and go with Chromite sand, but if you want to gain every bit of weight possible, step up to the Zircon. Cal: Ha! For both front and rear Edgewood bags, start by looking for the black nylon/cordura flap. They recently introduced a new Tack Driver Line of bags that are well suited to long-range shooting. When purchased in bulk, Chromite is typically 25-30% LESS expensive than Zircon. 2023 Outdoor Sportsman Group. var s = document.getElementsByTagName('script')[0]; s.parentNode.insertBefore(ga, s); Chromite delivers nearly the same bag weight as Zircon but is more economical to buy. YOU are everything this brand stands for. JavaScript is disabled. When asking questions, know your audience. Most of their bags have many different color and pattern options, and they have an extensive selection of front, rear and multiple-use offerings. Hunter's Blind Bag. I appreciate you chiming in. 21st Century Innovation Sand Bag Filler . Lenzi Rear bags work very well and are popular with top competitors. Riverbed sand: 190 cc In fact, the match director for one the largest matches in the world told me they had to redesign some of their stages to make them more difficult after the Game Changer bag came out, because that bag allows shooters to get very steady from positions that used to be tough. Separate fill bags do not squeeze in unison when resting a pistol grip butt on them. In non-competitive use, heavy sand can still benefit shooters. For most users, we recommend Chromite. There are now several version of Game Changer bags in various sizes, features, and colors. Play Sand: 6.8 lbs. I'd say over 80% of the content was ne Cal: Ha! It is also the most expensive. Thats an interesting idea, Derek. You should not rely solely on this content, and Amazon assumes no liability for inaccuracies. Another brand that is often seen at PRS matches is Wiebad. Tough and Durable: Made of heavy-duty and waterproof 600D nylon, double-thread stitching technology. I also know lots of guys prefer a simple bag like the TAB Gear Rear Bag or Accuracy 1st Shooting bag, if youre only going to use it as a rear bag. Five pounds is some serious weight, but that provides a firm platform that creates excellent stability for your rifle, whether its used as a rear bag or to support the entire rifle. There is more information here than can be consumed. So now youre getting to the stuff I need to buy. 1.00 pound of Riverbed Sand displaces 190cc vs. 295cc for Play Sand. The Forster Kwik-Fill Sandbag Filler Funnel features a simple, durable, compact plastic funnel body with a . Match-Grade Rifle Primers: Are They Better and Worth the Extra Expense? Caldwell is well-known for its various shooting sleds. Their TAC Pad is one of the best options for a versatile shooting bag. OneTigris Full Dexterity Tactical Shooting Gloves. Pictured is a heavy lava type sand that has quite a bit of weight but doesn't absorb a lot of moisture. How do the density-volume numbers translate to the real world? Copyright 2023 PrecisionRifleBlog.com, All Rights Reserved. The synthetic fills also do better in rain, the sand tends to soak it up and turn into a brick, I still bring one to matches that have a chance of rain. Email: Efreiwald [at] ifscos.com. The best and most stable support bags to keep your next shot right where you need it. you can make a 2/3 fill level for this shooter bags for a better shooting. You bet, Al! Theyre 6.5 and 1.5 pounds, respectively, so they have a place in hunting environments, too. So when you buy heavy sand, make sure you are getting what you pay for. . This is put together well. Carrying those 2 bags always worked great for me. The primary thing to know is that you want a bag that can provide a balanced and stable shooting position on the various barricades you might come across in a match. We pride ourselves in our incredible customer service. To my knowledge, Dupont Zircon M is the heaviest sand that a normal human can acquire. The various colors on the chart represent the rank of the shooters. We are sorry. Here are the results of that question: That list should look familiar, because its largely the same bags and order of popularity we saw in the NRL towards the top of this post. Then he calculated how much each type of sand would weigh in various sizes of rear sandbags: standard, large, and ultra-large (Bigfoot). But, any rear bag used on a bench will be as heavy as I can make it while still using "sand" as filler. From your first comment, you would seem to be in favor of the Armageddon Gear bags. Other popular bags from Armageddon Gear are the Large Fat Bag, the Chinese Cheater Bag, and the X Wing Rear Bag. For most users, we recommend Chromite. 15% of shooters said the Short Action Precision Run n Gun Bag was their favorite. Ive been in a squad with some of the top shooters in the country, and I was struck by how often they simply run one bag on a stage to make building an improvised shooting position quick and easy. Zircon is a very light tan/brown color and is very similar in appearance to normal sandbox "play sand". Very few are are toting around rear bags that weigh more than a few lbs, and many are looking to go lighter- not heavier. A rear bag acts as stabilization for the rifle, providing the last bit of accuracy that simply holding with your hand won't provide. When purchased in bulk, Chromite is typically 25-30% LESS expensive than Zircon. . New Paris, le-de-France, France jobs added daily. 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Available at pet stores. This is what makes PRS interesting. We have their necessary FFL information on file and your FFL order will ship directly to them once processed. For serious shooters, the answer is yes. Provides Stability for Precision Shots - This is a very simple shooting sandbag, which is ideal for proper height in prone positions, and also fits over a window ledge, deck railing, truck rail, shooting bench, etc. Reviewed in the United States on October 16, 2022. Riverbed Sand: 7.9 lbs. One thing Im not sure I like is this new lighter fill material. Zircon is normally rated as having the greatest density among heavy sands and it has the smallest particle size, though some Chromite sand density values overlap the Zircon numbers. I use the modular pump pillow, which features 5 pouches that you could add/remove to customize the size of it. The latest version also features a zipper that allows you to replace the fill to adjust the weight to your preference. Riverbed sand, is about 30% less dense than Zircon or Chromite, but is about 150% more dense than silica sand. Where have others gone to get their heavy sand for rear bags? Prince Minerals Chrome CAST 7850 (Chromite) (black): 172 lb/cu.ft; avg. Full content visible, double tap to read brief content. The Game Changer basically allows you to straddle a barricade and create a wide/flat, soft shooting platform from virtually any surface. Universal Rear Shooting Bags, 3 Sizes. Items 1 to 6 No icon name was supplied or your browser does not support SVG Filter By Filter By Reset all filters No icon name was supplied or your browser does not support SVG . Dupont Zircon M (pale tan): 165-175 lb/cu.ft; avg. Quick View. This ability to maintain sandbag alignment is vital when shooting competitive Benchrest, either short-range or long-range. ;) Thanks, Cal Cal: Hey, Heath. Cell: 610-334-3256 They sell it in 100 lb. We offer top quality shooting bags for the average hunters & shooters to the top benchrest competitors. I have never seen an explanation for this. Their Simple Pouch Locking Zipper is interesting because, as one can guess, it has a locking zipper function. Kitty loves sleeping on my shooting bag and loves and usually picks the 3D bag with light fill as his preferred pillow . Just had a bag of heavy sand show up from Sinclair today. These dealers either do not meet our requirements for FFL transfers, or prefer to not perform transfers for guns purchased online from Brownells. However, Chromite will save you money, and deliver very nearly the same amount of weight by volume. Youll find over 90,000 products from top brands and hard-to-find unique gun parts, firearm accessories, gunsmithing tools, and other products to maintain, repair, and upgrade your guns for work, home, hobby, and protection. That is a cool looking design you have. Chromite: 9.9 lbs. Not Available Dealers are dealers Brownells cannot ship guns to at this time. At Protektor Model wetake pride in ensuring quality design, workmanship and customer service. In other words, using heavy sand helps your rear bag stay planted on the bench during a string of fire. Kimber's Hunter Pro Desolve Blak takes the firm's more affordable mountain rifle to new heights. I have been waiting on this one and really appreciate your efforts and the details included in your writing. Slam the base of the bag firmly on the bench several times to compact and evenly seat the sand. Zircon: 13.4 lbs. $47.95 View more I was thinking of a rabbit ear bag. Jul 14 . how much volume it would displace per pound. That sounds like a great combo to me. Friction from the stock on the rear bag, or bumping the bag on recoil with either a body part or pistol grip can move a lighter bag out of place and necessitate realigning the bag to get on target. Zircon: 20.1 lbs. The Riverbed sand I tested, Exo-Terra Reptile sand (photo right), was fairly expensive as purchased at a pet store. With an Accu-Fit stock and left hand adjustable bolt, this rifle is a perfect choice for anyone! Perpetrators. This is where shooting bags come in, and there are tons of different options. Reviewed in the United States on September 26, 2022. on a commercial postal scale. By switching from conventional sand to Zircon or Chromite, you can DOUBLE the weight of sand in your rear bag. It would be nice if it was made in the US but oh well. The latest version has straps that allow you to attach it to the rifle, and handles on both ends to give you something to grab and easily move to another position. Nice Iron with rounded edgesdark bag so you don't see the rust stains..but it is heavy. Consider your own shooting style and consider how different bags would affect it. If you ever watch a Precision Rifle Series match (PRS), youll see there are many different factors that go into competing. 6.5 Creedmoor Ammo Test Summary: Hit Probability At Long-Range, 6.5 Creedmoor Ammo Test Part 5: Live-Fire Group Sizes & Precision, 6.5 Creedmoor Ammo Test Part 4: Live-Fire Muzzle Velocity Details. Things are getting a bit crazy now. Cal is a life-long learner, and loves to help others get into this sport he's so passionate about. Warhorse Developments Saracen 4-Legged Bag was the favorite of 4% of these top shooters. Riverbed sand is a conglomerate of several different sizes and colors and appears red and black. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Replacing one Ive lost, this seems well made and is the size I wanted. Copyright 2023 Bruno Shooters Supply. Many serious Benchrest shooters fill their sand bags with heavy sand. There is an art to finding the right balance, and Ill try to speak more to that later in this post. The play sand-filled bag may not. A Data-Driven Approach To Precision Rifles, Optics & Gear. There are other types of Heavy Sand not tested here, such as Garnet Sand, which is between Chromite and Zircon in weight. From 7 to 9 January 2015, terrorist attacks occurred across the le-de-France region, particularly in Paris. Thanks for the kind words. The Zircon-filled bag stays put. But, Id be cautious to think some of this couldnt be applicable to practical, hunting scenarios or even in military applications. As for the Protected Content stuff, I hope to find something that is a little less invasive at some point but long story short, Im having problems with people copy-and-pasting my posts and republishing them on their own website. The Riverbed sand I tested, Exo-Terra Reptile sand (photo right), was fairly expensive as purchased at a pet store. Distances will be from 100-1000 yards. Unless you are unable to get Zircon or Chromite, I would not bother with the riverbed sand. While Reasor Precision was the original designer of the Game Changer bag, Armageddon Gear is now the official and exclusive producer of the bag. It can be used in many scenarios: tank traps, fences, rocks, tires, regular rear bag, over the top of a tripod, fence post, logs, and the list goes on. . By taking note of the needs of each user and where their heart takes them. Final cost and estimated delivery date can be seen in your cart. Reply. It can also be used to add weight and create friction between surfaces. Final cost and estimated delivery date can be seen in your cart. Edgewood offers an innovative rear Twisted Gater bag with an unusual asymmetrical footprint. 1996-2023, Amazon.com, Inc. or its affiliates, Select a location to see product availability, OneTigris Shooting Rest Bag - Filled Shooting Bag Shooting Sandbags Front Rear Shooting Squeeze Bags for Rifles Hunting Target, Multicam, Free returns are available for the shipping address you chose. My hope was varying how I asked about the shooting bags would result in more insight, and I feel like it did. For better or worse, the majority of shooters here are focused on practical precision and field matches. All leather items are made with the finest top grain cowhide leather available. There are many features that are locked out. Thanks for taking the time to do these surveys, its fun and interesting to know what others are using, as well as hearing about some products that arent as well known. Thanks! Full Member. Today some of the most popular bags are shaped liked saddles and udders! Chromite: 152 cc Cal, me and a buddy are taking a long distance class in April and among many things, I need a better rear bag. So lets dive into the data! Glad to hear youve found it helpful. Wiebad even offers a modular version of this bag that allows you to remove pouches of fill to adapt the size/tightness of the bag in the field. Riverbed Sand Weighs Less but Costs More than Chromite Some will say, Well if you want a heavier sandbag, why not just add lead shot? That is a great idea, but as far as I know, it is also illegal in every form of Benchrest competition. This chest rig is a great intermediate solution for anyone looking to layer their gear options. you can make a 2/3 fill level for this shooter bags for a better shooting. I dont shoot F-class. For serious shooters, the answer is yes. I basically gave them a list of brands and allowed them to select as many as theyd like.