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How does Friedman BE 100's little brother PINK TACO compares to Dirty Shirley's little sister MINI DIRTY SHIRLEY?Thanks to MusiX for the loan of these fantastic amps: Pink taco: http://bit.ly/3limsDU Mini Dirty Shirley: http://bit.ly/38INnUhhttps://www.musix.com/ch/en/Use my affiliate link to get a 15% discount from Bogren Digital IR packs: https://bogrendigital.com/?ref=Z9Abn2UFq4hhDSome of my music (Spotify):- Solo stuff: http://spoti.fi/2JF1FvL- Cyhra: http://spoti.fi/3obAbNt- Red Wolf: http://spoti.fi/3pO6Zwr- Godsplague: http://spoti.fi/2X8POckYou can follow me also on:https://www.facebook.com/eugeofficial/https://www.instagram.com/Euge230V/https://twitter.com/Euge230VCYHRA: http://cyhra.com/Timecodes:- Intro: 0:00- The Song: 0:23- Noodling with both amps | EVH Frankenstrat: 2:32- General info: 4:11- Comparing the amps | EVH Frankenstrat: 6:00- The gear \u0026 signal chain: 10:23- Noodling with both amps | ESP Eclipse: 11:52- The back panels: 13:54- Conclusion: 14:06- How loud they actually are: 14:58#EugeValovirta #Friedman #PinkTacoMiniDirtyShirley Help needed verifying plate dissipation/Cathode resistor value for 6V6. I'm from Brazil and will come to the USA soon, and hope to find all them on a local store to try side by side. Friedman. Amped-up iterations of the Mini Dirty Shirley and BE-100-inspired Pink Taco feature two EL84 power tubes, a trio of 12AX7 preamp tubes and a host of new voices. Another difference is that you can get a mod on the PT of a simple clean channel. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Your Preferred Price Friedman. 2,111. Black. Aug 27, 2017. The Shirley is no retiring kid sister. Thank you for reading 5 articles this month*, US pricing $3.99 per month or $39.00 per year, UK pricing 2.99 per month or 29.00 per year, Europe pricing 3.49 per month or 34.00 per year, *Read 5 free articles per month without a subscription. Both USA-made models offer head and and combo options. The power switch is a simple on/off with no standby. Okay - your thread got me to go check out the Friedman offerings. 1) The price difference is because the Runts are PCB while the DSM and PT are hand wired. The Mini is comparatively bantamweightjust 30 pounds and pumping 20 watts of output through a 10", 25-watt Celestion Greenback. I have cranked both the Mini Shirley and Pink Taco with the DS cab and the PT cab. WTF! For what you stated the "Mini DS" would cover best (little closer to Plexi) also the Runt (closer to JCM800) can do the same but with a bit more gain. The Pink Taco in the lowest gain setting I would say is more in the ballpark of the Studio Vintage than the Mini Dirty Shirley. As it reads basically. I can't imagine you'd need another Fender along with that. I bought a DS40 in the end, but no kidding, when I played the PT as my first Friedman experience, I had never heard a Marshall circuit I was playing sound so good -- it had that magic "it" element going, a certain mojo. You must log in or register to reply here. It'll have more headroom too, and with 2 6L6's, the cleans may eliminate your need for another amp. The Taco has such an immediacy to the attack. Also, as expected, things were quieter when my pedalboard was plugged into the effects loop rather than straight into the front end. 3-position gain structure switch for toggling between modern and vintage tones. Just contact Dave Friedman directly or Teddy at Make'n Music and they will make you a 240v version like mine. I can wait. Under the hoodor, at least, inside the well-built Baltic birch cabinetis an effects send/return and additional 8-ohm and 16-ohm speaker outs. So what's the difference between these amps. I am thinking of getting a DS mini and wanted to ask which celestion gels best with this head? The Dirty Shirley Mini rocks! You're looking at $999 for a Mesa mini vs $2700 for a Dirty Shirley. Just listen to Pete Thorn's demo of the Pink Taco 20-watt head "no pedal required" indeed! You are using an out of date browser. No standby. Nice amp, but I was disappointed, nothing special IMO. I would guess the PT to be more different. I don't know what low gain means. Ozzy Osbourne names his dream supergroup and it features three guitarists, Joe Bonamassa plays AC/DCs Back in Black like youve never heard it before in this soulful rhythm n blues reimagining, The Lowlist: INXS's Kick was the sound of a rock band taking on modern technology. 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I know a regular Dirty Shirley has amazing cleans with just the volume knob. Premier Guitar features affiliate links to help support our content. Been eying the pink taco amp for a while but just noticed the dirty Shirley mini. Cleans up better than the PT20 I think. Mighty but small. Prince thought so, Watch Joe Bonamassa sit in with Scary Pockets and Joanna Jones for a funkified cover of Back In Black, Taylor and Original Grain Watches team up for some very classy wrist candy incorporating the high-end acoustic brands Urban Ironbark. I think that i actually like the G12H-30 a bit more and have been getting great results with it from a variety of amps. Dave designed the Pink Taco Mk II to sound like a 100 watt EL-34 guitar amp, with signature tight bottom end, using custom transformers and 'the clearest possible signal path.' Those Wildwoods are impossible to find. PS, the Pink Taco is 1233 USD and the Suhr Badger 30 is 1490 USD. I viewed some youtube comparisons and in one of them the breakup of the PT seemed a bit fizzier than the DS. Other universal appointments include an ultra-transparent series FX loop and hand-crafted cabinetry. Making these already great-sounding tube amps even more flexible. Although quick research states assembled in USA which is kind of confusing. An 'ultra-transparent series FX loop' welcomes your time-based effects pedals to the party and there's 4, 8 and 16 ohm jacks. I've played a Runt 50 and they are great. The Saturation circuit allows for more of an aggressive metal tone. Any guitarist who has lugged around 4x12s, Super Reverbs, or other heavy-ass combos and stacks in search of big, meaty tones can appreciate the trend toward small amps that snarl. Friedman PT V2 20-watt Mini Tube Head 20-watt, 1-channel Tube Head with 3-band EQ, Gain Structure Switch, Sat and Fat Switches, and FX Loop $1,499.99. I am somewhat intrigued by the PT but would only buy a used one when the price comes down. They're loud man. The combo option features Celestion 16 Ohm 12 G12M-65 Creamback speaker (Combo) with the weight for that coming in at 45lbs and 22lbs for the head. The DS has more headroom, but the PT is more different to the Maz, I would have guessed the opposite as the Maz seems to cut like a knife and the DS sounded a little "less middy". Amp guru Dave Friedmans latest, the Dirty Shirley Mini, is a new addition to that genus. I missed the standby function when switching instruments, but my tuner pedal did the job amiably. It's all about vintage classic rock tones, with less of the high-gain action of the Taco. https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/2536A. I'm the Guitars Editor for MusicRadar, handling news, reviews, features, tuition, advice for the strings side of the site and everything in between. Its the little sister of Friedman Amplifications Dirty Shirley combo, which clocks in at 40 watts and 52 pounds, with a single 12" Celestion G12M Creamback speaker. Little Sister. I returned it after a month. The new Friedman Little Sister Head is an updated Mini Dirty Shirley, and the Pink Taco V2 does the same for the Pink Taco head. FriedmanLittle Sister Head $1,499.99 How does Friedman BE 100's little brother PINK TACO compares to Dirty Shirley's little sister MINI DIRTY SHIRLEY?Thanks to MusiX for the loan of these fantas. DSM is more versatile and has better bass response from my experience. . No reverb, no line out, not even a standby switch. Re: Friedman schematics. Like the Pink Taco Mk II it's an EL84 powered, single-channel head or 1x12 combo based on its 40-watt predecessor with an S-Switch for the gain structure and this time a B Switch to switch between Bright and Tight modes that will take you into harder rock territory. Should I sell the 20 for an Orange Tiny Terror? Thoughts? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The PT seems to have a bit less bottom end and a bit more upper mid sizzle to it. Again, the combo differs only with the appointment of a Celestion 16 Ohm 12 G12M-65 Creamback speaker. You are using an out of date browser. Being one that likes both hard rock and classic rock, those voicings are a good match for me. Its also worth noting the two EL84 power tubes and three 12AX7 preamp tubes, as well as the ultra-transparent series FX loop. Its mounted upside down, so youve got to tilt the amp on its face to see it and plug in, which would be challenging on a dark stage. But sometimes its not possible, and in this case, I'm trying to choose the best option. When Nashville got one of the first DSM amps in, I spend hours AB'ing both PT20 and the then new DSM. The Runt has that great clean sound (the only channel switcher of the three) and the DSM is known to many as their favorite Friedman amp. Pink Taco V2. To my ears, the results sounded a little more harmonically rich and lush. One can never have too many amps!! The Pink Taco has more of the upper mids that the Studio Vintage has, there are some Greg Koch clips kicking around where plays a bunch of Zeppelin riffs. Flip the toggle downwards, with the master and the gain in the same spot, and youre deep in Marshallville, with opulently ripe mids and a profile that reminded me of Ritchie Blackmores epic early-70s sound. These 3 guitar beauties from Friedman have a lot in common, not only names or visual appearance i.e. Friedman's definitely have that British Marshall sound and definitely a nice twangy clean channel as well, definitely more mid-range sound wise. I would say the Shirley benefits from a lower wattage speaker, probably like 15 to 30 watts as it seems to give up the good dirt as lower volume than the Pink Taco. Therefore, it may be a bit of a stretch. If your looking to get the same tones in a smaller package I'd say either the PT20 or Runt 20. And the Friedman.well it could have been a Peavey or a solid state amp at that point. WTS: Friedman Pink Taco PT-20 20 watt amp head. My Les Paul is the leading online community and marketplace for Les Paul guitar fans. A little brighter and edgier and don't have quite the warmth and swirl of the smallbox or BE but its . All three of those settings are loud! What are you waiting for. Like the Pink Taco Mk II it's an EL84 powered, single-channel head or 1x12" combo based on it's 40-watt predecessor with an S . The Mini feels as if it could take a plunge at a load-in and still start right up (at least after the rush of horror from dropping a $1,799 amp faded). I have both, and love both, can't go wrong. 11 guitarists who shaped Derek Trucks' sound, Revv relaunches its Dynamis Series with US-voiced, Two Notes Torpedo-equipped D25 combo, Watch Dream Theaters Jordan Rudess sing the praises of the amazing LAVA ME 3 acoustic-electric guitar, Line 6 adds Dumble-style tones in free Helix firmware update sure to please fans of John Mayer, Joe Bonamassa and David Gilmour, Eric Andrs advice for aspiring upright bass players: Dont play it. I don't think it sounds like the BE side of the Smallbox. Friedman Amplification Dirty Shirley Minifriedmanamplification.com. FriedmanLittle Sister Combo $1,799.99, FriedmanPink Taco V2 Head $1,499.99 In terms of tone, the Little Sister units have been set up to harness sparkling cleans and vintage crunch, with the amps promising to deliver everything from blues and rock to country just by adjusting its Gain, Master and switch controls. The Little Sister and Pink Taco Mk II are both available in head and combo models. Has anyone here tried both? The combo, meanwhile, is practically identical the same interior appointments and control set make the cut though makes use of a Celestion 16 Ohm 12 G12M-65 Creamback speaker. Since I play so may different styles of music, which of the two you think will also go more modern rock, punk and not metal, but closer to it, with a TS in front? I know the Pink Taco well and have spent probably an hour with the mini Shirley. I hear the PT20 is kind of a mine Brown Eye channel. You just need to lower the bass as the gain goes up. The 3-dial EQ is no-frills, but quite responsive. You must log in or register to reply here. (I did, and the answer is very!). November 2013. Didn't bond with it. Friedman Runt 20 and Runt 50 - A/B Test and full review, WTS: Friedman Pink Taco PT-20 20 watt amp head, SOLD - Friedman PT-20 Pink Taco - V1 with gain structure switch - SOLD, are Gibson Les Pauls mainly for collectors? There's a couple good Youtube videos of the PT vs DSM on Youtube. It's an ultra-compact 9 1/2" x 15 1/2" x 16 1/2". JavaScript is disabled. Brandon Ellis laid down the gauntlet to Jacksons Master Builders with this 27-fret Gold Crackle Kelly is this one of the most challenging custom builds ever made? Oh and by the way. Friedman Announces the BE-Mini - Premier Guitar , Friedman Releases Pink Taco V2 Heads & Combos - Premier Guitar , First Look: Dunlop Cry Baby Daredevil Fuzz Wah, Dunlop and Daredevil Pedals Collab on Cry Baby Daredevil Fuzz Wah, Slave to Sirens: Lebanons First All-Female Thrash-Metal Band. JCM 2000 DSL 50 - Perfect amp for me - Late to the party! Afraid I can't get to Wildwood. The ultimate beginner's guide. Before MusicRadar I worked on guitar magazines for 15 years, including Editor of Total Guitar. All sounded fully and correctly voiced via the Dirty Shirley Minis Celestion, although the power, tonal depth, and sustain the amp exhibited with humbuckers was truly a joy. Or . If you want some cleans and plenty of gain that covers blues to even metal with the bass off and gain dimed, the DS Mini would be the obvious choice, cause it can be dialed in for most all tones. All rights reserved. Some of the add-ons on this site are powered by. https://reverb.com/item/280667-friedman 12-cabinet. I've played a Runt 50 and they are great. Its been three years since I had one of these around and man do I mi. DSM! The Pink Taco is the sibling to Friedman's first production amp the BE-100. Playing a rough-and-tumble gig in a small room with no amp miking, the Mini blasted along with my trio loud and clear, and since the joint was all concrete and glass, the amps absence of reverb was irrelevant. Variety of classic tones via three gain stages. You may have to register It is powerful and robust like a Dr. Z Maz.18 would be. The Official Marshall Studio Classic Thread Sc20. For what you stated the "Mini DS" would cover best (little closer to Plexi) also the Runt (closer to JCM800) can do the same but with a bit more gain. You must log in or register to reply here. Most things I play by choice have too many low string runs, and I have to have the option of great bass response. Despite all that goodness, the lil Shirleys 10" speaker does sound a tad compressed to my 12"-speaker-conditioned ears, so I couldnt resist plugging the Minis power section into a Sam Hill custom pine cabinet loaded with a 50-watt 12" Eminence. And theres a lot of mojo in that preamp, thanks to a 3-way gain-structure toggle switch. Talk with your fellow tone freaks on the web's liveliest (and friendliest!) #2. In a bigger, classier dumpwhere amps would be miked and sound bounced around less like a caffeinated squirrelthe results would have been even better. From my experience still owning a BE100 and was looking for the best Friedman 20 watter that had more open classic tone and an amp I can get a killer blues and rock tones out of, I went with the Dirty Shirley Mini.