811 sounds just like 511 but 511 has a higher cutt-off frequency. They can take power better than an original Altec 19 network. Anyone want to swap there Jub's for Altec 19's? I have never been a fan of aluminum or titanium tweeters. Quote Chris A Heritage Members 9.7k Location: Arlington, Texas, USA Would the mod to your boards be tough? Posted February 9, 2005. Sorry for that , but I cant agree . I had an Altec 19 for myself much years ago , I compared these pair of Altecs with a K-horn . Sounds like you have found them underwhelming. Hey, I don't mind Coytee mentioning Jubs, but I spoke with a Klipsch technician and he said for my sized room 12' x 15' and 10' high (with the Khorns on the 15' wall) the Khorns would be the better fit sonic wise over the Jubilees. DM Quote CaptnBob This is a wonderful pair of Klipschorn Type AK-2 Walnut Veneer in Very Good to Excellent condition. I think Klipsch made basically three speakers that were fully horn loaded and finished like furniture for use in home audio systems (as opposed to sound reinforcement applications.) I know of several people who have made than change. Yes, the A7s didn't have a great low frequency response, and their high end response 290 driver: 116 dB SPL. he also builds one for Khorn with the option of a replacement Khorn tophat motorboard if desired. $178.24 for 24 months with PayPal Credit* Buy It Now. Add to cart. Now whether that is something I have accepted and learned to live with over time or just naturally prefer I cant say, but I am fond of it. i have a set put away, i havent brought them out in a long long time. Klipsch may have gotten the 34 Hz figure from that test, knowing that they would go considerably lower in many rooms. WebBuy Klipsch Heritage here: https://paducahhometheater.com/collections/klipsch-heritagePaducah Home Theater / PHT TV - Ep. Display as a link instead, Blister8160 he has both & can give an honest assessment of the differences. You cannot paste images directly. i guess i need to take them out , since they are so well thought of. Owned and used a pair of 1974 Cornwalls for a decade. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. January 19, 2005 in Technical/Restorations. HERES Why Your Subwoofer is Bottoming Out (And How to FIX It!) What driver would you recommend for the 511B horn? Copyright 2022 Klipsch Group, Inc. If the WAF is a problem, consider covering the big horn mouthes with grille cloth. It has much more bass than the Heresy, is more I had to "eq" the tar out of it just to get it to go flat up to 7500 Hz where I crossed it over to the tweeter. Yes, the A7s didn't have a great low frequency response, and their high end response was only as good as the khorns. So triumphant in fact that JBL, Electrovoice, and Vitavox all bought license and based some of their own "statement" loudspeakers on the K-horn. You cannot paste images directly. You didn't specify in your posting what particular Klipsch speakers you are thinking of, and most respondents have referred to various herita Altec Model 19 vs Klipsch La Scala - Vinnie - High Efficiency Speaker Asylum Altec Model 19 vs Klipsch La Scala Posted by Vinnie (A) on November 12, 2009 at 17:50:19 Wondering if anyone has ever had the oppurtunity to hear these two classic speakers side by side? If someone is contemplating new Khorns then I think they might want to know about the Jubilee's. Best Offer: The box defines the woofer horn, so the only part left 1) Good horns tend to sound more like other good horns than non-horn speakers. Both of these are good brands, IMO. As always, it's List price was $599; list price of the A7 was $299.40. This item is sold As-Described and cannot be returned unless it arrives in a condition different from how it was described or photographed. The driver on my 511B horn is the Altec 808-8a CD. They all sound good and they're all different. The 2019 Klipschorn also offers its own combination of those qualities, one that delights and surprises in some respects (uncolored vocals, surprisingly good spatial performance, much better senses of touch and impact than the average loudspeaker) while disappointing in others (less than the tightest bottom octaves, a trace of grain under strain). each and is known to produce a sound pressure level of 105 dB with just 1 watt. Off the topic, I have just bought a pair of Gradient SW-63s, a pair of dipole subs specifically designed to accompany Quad ESL-63s. The network is fine, but like the guys are saying, the 811b is only good to a but below 800 Hz. two way - Jubilee. Their top of the line residential unit at the time was the Laguna, with two 803B LF drivers and a 511B horn with 802D HF driver. Although we have industrial La Scalas now and having sold our K-horns recently, my wife and were pleasantly surprised by how little space they actually occupy when nudged into long wall corners (in our case, 21 feet apart). The Klipschorns are built with the K-401 mid horn. The A7's are really nice from the upper bass to the top end. Coytee, will you EVER stop pushing Jubilees? Other than bass (which the 19 likely does better than the small, ported Valencias) the Valencias leave the Cornies far behind. YMMV. It's futile. (You must log in or sign up to reply here. Khorns have surprisingly high WAF. Coytee, will you EVER stop pushing Jubilees? Which is why, I have a preference for running multiple systems at the same time, When I am running my A7's with tube amplification, I am also running two other systems with conventional designed tower speakers, powered by solid state amps. Naturally, keep all dkalsi Notice how you can't name a single one that doesn't? "The weak point is that K501 and K401 horn itself!". The A7-500-8 features improved high-frequency Had he not made his comment about buying a new pair of Khorns, I would have not said anything. I have a few other sets of speakers thru out the house (Cornwalls, Pioneer, Sansui, Advents) & enjoy them all for what they are. how hard is it to fix or replace the horn on a 19? They have the most advanced crossovers which are really fine tuned for the drivers. Pasted as rich text. Powered by Invision Community. glad to hear you are enjoying the Altecs. WebVoice of the Theatre A7-500-8 For smaller theatres, or where space is at a premium for multitrack systems, the A7 is the choice. So I took the best of both worlds. Altec spec sheets show 30hz- 20khz freq response, Khorns show 33hz- 17khz. You'll have to listen for yourself and see what "does it" for you. Dr Morbius: It looks like, as of June 2, you still haven't bought anything. actually better than many expensive gears I heard. With that said I think there are much better Altec Midrange Horns and Drivers than are in the Stock Khorn. I hope you are aware the A7 is an industrial looking box intended to be custom finished for residential use. dkalsi I have consistently found that I 'like" whatever is new in my listening room. We will let you know in advance of AK going offline during the upgrade install. Truth be told I've never listened to a pair of Khorns but I do have the Cornscalas and am blown away by their openness and clarity so, along with my HH Scott amp and Empire turntable connected to the new Khorns.well let's say I'll be a very happy man - and the wife too as she loves the sound of the Cornscallas as well as how the Khorns are set into the corners of the room. Anyway, I'm intrigued about what you said regarding changing/upgrading the mid squawker in the Khorn. You cannot paste images directly. The weak point is that K501 and K401 horn itself! I wish I had an option to get some new khorns. Classis Altec and Klipsch share the common virtues of great clarity, hair trigger dynamics and high sensitivity. Just because you/me/anyone might already know about them doesn't mean he does. It's fine when when within the scope of purchase, but when brought up all the time, and recommended for consideration when thousands over budget, multiple friends have indicated in passing that excessive Klipsch shilling is almost as bad as the Bose bashing. Yes, the A7s didn't have a great low frequency response, and their high end I had an Altec 19 for myself much years ago , I compared these pair of Altecs with a K-horn . Secondly, the altecs easliy go down to 30hz. I really don't think its as cut and dry as some of you guys say and out of the two systems, if anyone is a limitied compromise, I really feel its the Khorn. especially with the wife tired of projects, it's a can't go wrong option! They are HUGE and so is their sound. 1 watched in the last 24 hours. I've used tractrix mid horn replacements in my vintage Khorns and now in my LaScalas. Your link has been automatically embedded. The midrange is from the direct-radiating cone woofer and not from a horn-loaded Item Information. Bloody awesome info! What are the physical dimmensions for the horn. WebSomething that needs to be mentioned is that the Altec A5, A6 and A7 use the same main cabinets, the 828. But the RFs cross at 2000hz and even higher. The passive I have owned Cornwalls and Klipschorns and presently have a pair of Altec Lansing Model 19s. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. You can't crossover the LaScala or Klipschorn that high. well, the Khorns and LaScalas both use the venerable K-401 horn. This article explains what we need to know about these speakers that are still highly sought-after with many still in use in cinemas. My concern is the motorboad for my La Sclala's, I think I will need a new mount for my K77 outside the HF section.". (e.g., check the vertical polar pattern on the Iwata profile horn that you propose, not just the horizontal pattern), and I want him to try them out. Forum Policies, Rules, and Terms of Service. affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network, and I know you'll enjoy the process of getting a new pair of these legendary speakers! Of couse, I am wasting my breath on a Klispch forum typing thishaha. I have never heard the 19 pitted against the Khorn, but I agree that it is a very good speaker. They also sound terrific at extremely low SPLs (I have never heard "fade-outs" reproduced better than on Altec drivers) as well as at concert sound levels. Many Altec sheets used to say their tweeters went out to 22K Hz, but I have never seen this confirmed by other testers. sweet. The JBL driver has a continuous roll off. The Khorn would be pushing it to get to 450Hz on the upper crossover point, IMO. June 12, 2007 in 2-Channel Home Audio. Fits standard Altec Drivers 1.4 3-bolt Dimensions 37 1/2" W x 19" H x 31" D Weight 30.5 lbs each unpacked. Upload or insert images from URL. 5) The Altec A-7s sound much like the much bigger Altecs used with the magnetic stereo widescreen movies of the late '50s and the '60s, except that the bigger Yes, I use JBL 2426h drivers on 811b horns in my Belles. Clear editor. on the Khorn, there is plenty of room on to the side of the tractrix horn for just about any tweeter you'd want to use. Price: US $4,000.00. Al, Did you ever plot an Altec 808 in a K-400? One nice thing about this dilemma is that if you buy used speakers of this quality at a reasonable price, you can live with them for a few months or years and get most or all of your money out of them when you sell them. ok .. point taken .. whaddabout the EV 350t biradial ..?? The classic look of this iconic loudspeaker is completed through the use of retro software luster grill cloth that includes a cast zinc Klipschorn logo. It was to prove that the 511b would go below 500 Hz down to 400. Display as a link instead, I am interested in mating my K55M to an Altec 511 but have been having trouble finding them. Makes this a great hobby. In other words, they are never going to sound like A7's or K-horns. No for the reason above. These were Klipschorns, Jubilees and LaScalas. Many may know that I've been building for about 35 years. You need the Altec 511b horn instead. You can post now and register later.
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